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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 11:56 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Preds defense is the ideal, trying to exact it in Buffalo may prove futile Nashville's defense took years to build while the Sabres have a long, long way to go
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Preds defense is the ideal, trying to exact it in Buffalo may prove futile
Nashville's defense took years to build while the Sabres have a long, long way to go

- Michael Pachla

I like the ducks model

draft one in the first 2 rounds every year no matter what
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
I like the ducks model

draft one in the first 2 rounds every year no matter what

- homiedclown


agreed
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

May 28 @ 12:19 PM ET
Third
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
That's the problem with chasing possible trends, if you're late to the party, you've already missed it and you're back to square-one trying to figure out your next rebuild.


very well said, TM tried to do it this way with the kings model.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
Update:

Wings - Still 0.

Single serving alcohols - Still 2 [still Bud (frank)ing lights].


I hope all of you are having better weekends than me. I would bet big money you are.
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

May 28 @ 12:40 PM ET
"The biggest problem we saw with the Sabres, as well as with the Buffalo Bills, the last two years involved coaches trying to fit the players to the system instead of the other way around. Both coaches are no longer with the club after only two seasons."

I don't think there's a coach in the NHL that is capable of doing what you suggest. They all are products of years and years of coaching styles and beliefs and excelling at it (which landed them in the NHL to begin with). The amount they are capable of changing is minimal. If it were as simple as that .............. coaches would never get fired...... they would just change their system.

The bottom line is you need good players and a coach that matches the roster. Just like how it doesn't work when the players can't adapt to a certain system ......... it's the same way with coaching.

We have a decent core of players in Buffalo ......... determine their strengths, hire a coach that matches that skill set, get rid of players that don't and draft other players that match your "system".
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

May 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
Pach for Sabres coach!

Good blog Pach. You make an interesting point about chasing trends. One trend I have noticed in these playoffs is that the refs are letting a lot of obstruction calls go unwhistled. Makes me think that the trend towards the boring/clutch and grab type hockey of the early late 80's/early 90's where guys like Dana (the human pylon) Murzyn "excelled" in the NHL. I hope the league doesn't regress back to that era.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
very well said, TM tried to do it this way with the kings model.
- Sabresfan-365

The problem is we don't have an identity, at all.

We aren't fast
We aren't physical
We aren't overly skilled
We aren't a great defensive team

Our former GM just didn't know how to build a team.

Don't chase trends, build an identity
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

May 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
My best friend died 10 years ago, today at age 37. Jon was a huge Sabres fan I haven't played a single game of video hockey since 2007. Let's build a winning team, for God's sake...none of us are getting any younger!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
The problem is we don't have an identity, at all.

We aren't fast
We aren't physical
We aren't overly skilled
We aren't a great defensive team

Our former GM just didn't know how to build a team.

Don't chase trends, build an identity

- sbroads24



he had a list of guys he loved and thought it would work. itll be interesting to see what direction Bottman takes.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca/ @sbroads

new hero charts, much simpler but offer a clearer comparison and one vs that positions archetype
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

May 28 @ 4:56 PM ET
My concern is, is drafting of college players going to become a problem with them going to free agency instead of signing with the team that drafts them, We have Borgen and Fitzgerald as prospects, but can we sure that they will even sign here, That leaves us with limited CHL players that are prospects, Guhle, Martin, Stephens, Omanski, and the few already signed Nelson, Florentino and RFA Austin. Botterill has some work to do.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
My concern is, is drafting of college players going to become a problem with them going to free agency instead of signing with the team that drafts them, We have Borgen and Fitzgerald as prospects, but can we sure that they will even sign here, That leaves us with limited CHL players that are prospects, Guhle, Martin, Stephens, Omanski, and the few already signed Nelson, Florentino and RFA Austin. Botterill has some work to do.
- macman9

The number of times a college FA signs with his drafted team still exceeds the number of times they leave. Still worth investing in.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 6:20 PM ET
The problem is we don't have an identity, at all.

We aren't fast
We aren't physical
We aren't overly skilled
We aren't a great defensive team

Our former GM just didn't know how to build a team.

Don't chase trends, build an identity

- sbroads24

this is accurate

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 28 @ 6:28 PM ET
Mine is auto-debited.

"Set it and forget it" is the best way to pay bills like that.

- buffalofan19


That's great if you know you're going to have that money on that date. But for people who aren't quite sure it's not ideal.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 28 @ 6:30 PM ET
he had a list of guys he loved and thought it would work. itll be interesting to see what direction Bottman takes.
- Sabresfan-365


Yes, he had 3 drafts, but he was really only given 2 years to build the team. That's not a lot of time.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 6:33 PM ET
Yes, he had 3 drafts, but he was really only given 2 years to build the team. That's not a lot of time.
- Wetbandit1


i would accept this if he didnt come in and say he doesnt need a lot of time and proceed to sell assets like hotcakes to get players he personally wanted.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 28 @ 6:35 PM ET
I like the ducks model

draft one in the first 2 rounds every year no matter what

- homiedclown


That's all fine and good when you have a complete team to start with, then it's ok to gamble on a defenseman late in the 1st, because (frank) it, you already have Perry, Getzlaf, Kesler, Rakell, Fowler, Vatanen and Lindholm. But if you're just trying to fill out a team that has holes everywhere the year or 2 after trading away a player if he strung together 3 good games then it becomes much harder to potentially throw picks away on a defenseman that might make your team in 4 years.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 28 @ 6:36 PM ET
i would accept this if he didnt come in and say he doesnt need a lot of time and proceed to sell assets like hotcakes to get players he personally wanted.
- Sabresfan-365


I get that, but he said that with everyone knowing we were tanking for 2 years. So realistically you were expecting a 1 year rebuild?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 6:38 PM ET
I get that, but he said that with everyone knowing we were tanking for 2 years. So realistically you were expecting a 1 year rebuild?
- Wetbandit1



No, he apparently was. If he comes in here and preaches patience, lowers expectations and collects/develops young talent his firing would be well unjustified.

He came and blew a ton on players he believed could instantly turn this team around. And put together a hilariously bad defence.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 28 @ 7:48 PM ET
No, he apparently was. If he comes in here and preaches patience, lowers expectations and collects/develops young talent his firing would be well unjustified.

He came and blew a ton on players he believed could instantly turn this team around. And put together a hilariously bad defence.

- Sabresfan-365


Hopefully you've learned your lesson to never trust what someone says to get a job.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Hopefully you've learned your lesson to never trust what someone says to get a job.
- Wetbandit1



Why would I need the lesson, Im not the one who hired him
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 28 @ 8:07 PM ET
23 posts ? Losers

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 28 @ 8:37 PM ET
23 posts ? Losers
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Low energy
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